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	<title>Comments on: 2010 Legacy: No more excuses</title>
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		<title>By: Billy</title>
		<link>http://www.subiesport.com/site/2009/07/2010-legacy-cvt-36r-gt/comment-page-1/#comment-302</link>
		<dc:creator>Billy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Aug 2010 09:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m right there with you.  I have the 2010 GT.  Without the MT, no deal.  I&#039;d have gone to a different company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m right there with you.  I have the 2010 GT.  Without the MT, no deal.  I&#8217;d have gone to a different company.</p>
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		<title>By: yves</title>
		<link>http://www.subiesport.com/site/2009/07/2010-legacy-cvt-36r-gt/comment-page-1/#comment-300</link>
		<dc:creator>yves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 12:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FHI want reduce the weight of this cars,with the spec C
Subaru trend in this direction,the drivability is the most
serious objective for the company ( global site ).The next
real generation 2012...of STI will be with this image.The
luck to see a Spec B with 3.6R with turbo like Taurus SHO
is very slime.I thing to see a Legacy with 350 Hp and more
and STI with a similar horsepower with a potentiel of engine less,better luck next time.It&#039;s unlogic idea that owner of STI not take it.With 3.6R is really easy to have 
450 hp with nothing upgrade part,an other reality that the
tuner market take off in North American.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FHI want reduce the weight of this cars,with the spec C<br />
Subaru trend in this direction,the drivability is the most<br />
serious objective for the company ( global site ).The next<br />
real generation 2012&#8230;of STI will be with this image.The<br />
luck to see a Spec B with 3.6R with turbo like Taurus SHO<br />
is very slime.I thing to see a Legacy with 350 Hp and more<br />
and STI with a similar horsepower with a potentiel of engine less,better luck next time.It&#8217;s unlogic idea that owner of STI not take it.With 3.6R is really easy to have<br />
450 hp with nothing upgrade part,an other reality that the<br />
tuner market take off in North American.</p>
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		<title>By: Oregoncarbuyer</title>
		<link>http://www.subiesport.com/site/2009/07/2010-legacy-cvt-36r-gt/comment-page-1/#comment-280</link>
		<dc:creator>Oregoncarbuyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 16:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read all the reports available on the 2010 Subaru Legacies and ended up factory ordering a Legacy Limited 3.6R  without the moonroof.  Why the 3.6R?  It has ample power and the added smoothness of a six cylinder engine, which tends to be less obtrusive during acceleration.  Unlike the turbocharged four cylinder engine, I don&#039;t have to worry about letting the engine cool down after exiting a freeway to eat lunch.  Using regular fuel is convenient for me, and I prefer the feel of a conventional automatic transmission.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read all the reports available on the 2010 Subaru Legacies and ended up factory ordering a Legacy Limited 3.6R  without the moonroof.  Why the 3.6R?  It has ample power and the added smoothness of a six cylinder engine, which tends to be less obtrusive during acceleration.  Unlike the turbocharged four cylinder engine, I don&#8217;t have to worry about letting the engine cool down after exiting a freeway to eat lunch.  Using regular fuel is convenient for me, and I prefer the feel of a conventional automatic transmission.</p>
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		<title>By: D. Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.subiesport.com/site/2009/07/2010-legacy-cvt-36r-gt/comment-page-1/#comment-278</link>
		<dc:creator>D. Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It may be a mechanical marvel, but the interior and exterior are examples of incoherent design. None of the shapes flow together very well. They look downright awkward. The 05-09&#039;s have a much more cohesive look to them. And what do we get from these random shapes? A car that&#039;s boring and looks like every other mid-sized sedan. The design studio should be ashamed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It may be a mechanical marvel, but the interior and exterior are examples of incoherent design. None of the shapes flow together very well. They look downright awkward. The 05-09&#8217;s have a much more cohesive look to them. And what do we get from these random shapes? A car that&#8217;s boring and looks like every other mid-sized sedan. The design studio should be ashamed.</p>
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		<title>By: D. Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.subiesport.com/site/2009/07/2010-legacy-cvt-36r-gt/comment-page-1/#comment-277</link>
		<dc:creator>D. Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Legacy has been available with a V6 for several years (3.0 - referenced in this article). The Legacy GT has been and is still a H4 turbo car. There is very little reason to turbo the H6 when the H4 is lighter and capable of much more power than stock (300hp+ which is also referenced in this article).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Legacy has been available with a V6 for several years (3.0 &#8211; referenced in this article). The Legacy GT has been and is still a H4 turbo car. There is very little reason to turbo the H6 when the H4 is lighter and capable of much more power than stock (300hp+ which is also referenced in this article).</p>
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		<title>By: vwwv</title>
		<link>http://www.subiesport.com/site/2009/07/2010-legacy-cvt-36r-gt/comment-page-1/#comment-274</link>
		<dc:creator>vwwv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 06:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, word on the english-language streets is that the CVT is the real deal...It&#039;s the closest any automaker has come to perfecting the dream of the CVT.  Anyone who&#039;s looked at the inside of a Subaru transmission and has compared it to the competition...This tranny reaches the level of a toyota or a jeep-the quality and strength is the most important contribution to the durability of a 4 wheel drive transmission.  The six-speed may have an inferior shift mechnism to the STI Impreza but suggesting it&#039;s mechanically weak because if this difference is ridiculous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, word on the english-language streets is that the CVT is the real deal&#8230;It&#8217;s the closest any automaker has come to perfecting the dream of the CVT.  Anyone who&#8217;s looked at the inside of a Subaru transmission and has compared it to the competition&#8230;This tranny reaches the level of a toyota or a jeep-the quality and strength is the most important contribution to the durability of a 4 wheel drive transmission.  The six-speed may have an inferior shift mechnism to the STI Impreza but suggesting it&#8217;s mechanically weak because if this difference is ridiculous.</p>
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		<title>By: vwwv</title>
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		<dc:creator>vwwv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 05:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Big-body (ish) awd turbo? It&#039;s pretty amazing when you consider that this awd is legit.  Subaru&#039;s limited-slip technology is hard to argue with.  I know because I&#039;ve seen Subarus handle uphill ice-covered roads, black ice...the point is that drivetrain tech available in all of these models is absolutely top of the line.  Jeep has been using similar technology in their range-toppers but Subarus are optimized for weight--the engine weighs about 300 pounds.  It&#039;s only marginally appropriate to compare the car to the 2.0 volkswagen because this car will own everything in terms of awd and even 4wd in dynamic situations. AND the volkswagen in daily commuting.  The bigger wheelbase is amazing.  And it all weighs about the same as the older models...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big-body (ish) awd turbo? It&#8217;s pretty amazing when you consider that this awd is legit.  Subaru&#8217;s limited-slip technology is hard to argue with.  I know because I&#8217;ve seen Subarus handle uphill ice-covered roads, black ice&#8230;the point is that drivetrain tech available in all of these models is absolutely top of the line.  Jeep has been using similar technology in their range-toppers but Subarus are optimized for weight&#8211;the engine weighs about 300 pounds.  It&#8217;s only marginally appropriate to compare the car to the 2.0 volkswagen because this car will own everything in terms of awd and even 4wd in dynamic situations. AND the volkswagen in daily commuting.  The bigger wheelbase is amazing.  And it all weighs about the same as the older models&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: 2010 Subaru Legacy GT/3.6R &#124; Driving Sports</title>
		<link>http://www.subiesport.com/site/2009/07/2010-legacy-cvt-36r-gt/comment-page-1/#comment-270</link>
		<dc:creator>2010 Subaru Legacy GT/3.6R &#124; Driving Sports</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 07:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] If you prefer to read, instead of watching my review, you can see it over at Subiesport.com [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] If you prefer to read, instead of watching my review, you can see it over at Subiesport.com [...]</p>
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		<title>By: J. Little</title>
		<link>http://www.subiesport.com/site/2009/07/2010-legacy-cvt-36r-gt/comment-page-1/#comment-231</link>
		<dc:creator>J. Little</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 06:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have read all statements, and have a few remarks. Someone mentioned a 6 cylinder set up like the new Ford Taurus, are you willing to pay upwards of $40,000 for that set up. In reading articles, most SHO&#039;s will run about $43,000 dollars, or more. That car is a pig, it weights almost 4400 pounds ! I have owned Subaru&#039;s since 1982, and have remained loyal because of their product individuality, some how Subaru is loosing that. The Legacy is a good car, but should never be placed in the same category as the WRX/ STI. Those cars are true performance cars. Subaru tried with the Legacy Spec B, which was a good car, but sales were lackluster at best. The Legacy was developed for the older Subaru buyer that still wants some performance and the reliability of a Subaru. 95 % of Legacy buyers are not going to take their car to a track, to race in any form, hence that is why 75-80 % of all Legacy GT&#039;s sold in resent years were automatics. There are always going to be a few that want a manual transmission, that is why the WRX and STI, only come that way. So for those that want a manual transmission buy a WRX or STI. It doesn&#039;t make since for Subaru to put a manual transmission in the 6 cylinder Outback / Legacy, when over 95 % will be buying it with the automatic transmission, if they buy the 3.6 at all. I read  an article that stated Subaru missed the mark when not offering an automatic transmission for the new Legacy GT. Personally, I don&#039;t really care, because the new Legacy is to big, when placed next to the 09 model, it dwarfs it. Yes the Legacy needed a little more rear leg room, and maybe some head room, but they went to far. Subaru has gone mainstream, some may see that as a good thing, but for those loyal Subaru customers that have stuck with Subaru for many years, I would say most are quite disappointed. I bought Subaru&#039;s because they didn&#039;t look like anything else on the street, when you saw a Subaru, you knew it was a Subaru. Now who can tell, the Forester looks like a cross between the Toyota Highlander and the Mitsubishi Outlander ?? The Impreza looks like any other small compact car on the road, and now the Legacy joins the group, looking like a Camry - Lexus mix, and the Outback looking very much like the Toyota Venza, which are both being built out of the same factory in Lafayette Indiana. Personally Subaru has lost my support, I will be holding on to my current Subaru&#039;s, and if there comes a day I need a new car, unless Subaru makes some changes, I will be looking at other automobiles !!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have read all statements, and have a few remarks. Someone mentioned a 6 cylinder set up like the new Ford Taurus, are you willing to pay upwards of $40,000 for that set up. In reading articles, most SHO&#8217;s will run about $43,000 dollars, or more. That car is a pig, it weights almost 4400 pounds ! I have owned Subaru&#8217;s since 1982, and have remained loyal because of their product individuality, some how Subaru is loosing that. The Legacy is a good car, but should never be placed in the same category as the WRX/ STI. Those cars are true performance cars. Subaru tried with the Legacy Spec B, which was a good car, but sales were lackluster at best. The Legacy was developed for the older Subaru buyer that still wants some performance and the reliability of a Subaru. 95 % of Legacy buyers are not going to take their car to a track, to race in any form, hence that is why 75-80 % of all Legacy GT&#8217;s sold in resent years were automatics. There are always going to be a few that want a manual transmission, that is why the WRX and STI, only come that way. So for those that want a manual transmission buy a WRX or STI. It doesn&#8217;t make since for Subaru to put a manual transmission in the 6 cylinder Outback / Legacy, when over 95 % will be buying it with the automatic transmission, if they buy the 3.6 at all. I read  an article that stated Subaru missed the mark when not offering an automatic transmission for the new Legacy GT. Personally, I don&#8217;t really care, because the new Legacy is to big, when placed next to the 09 model, it dwarfs it. Yes the Legacy needed a little more rear leg room, and maybe some head room, but they went to far. Subaru has gone mainstream, some may see that as a good thing, but for those loyal Subaru customers that have stuck with Subaru for many years, I would say most are quite disappointed. I bought Subaru&#8217;s because they didn&#8217;t look like anything else on the street, when you saw a Subaru, you knew it was a Subaru. Now who can tell, the Forester looks like a cross between the Toyota Highlander and the Mitsubishi Outlander ?? The Impreza looks like any other small compact car on the road, and now the Legacy joins the group, looking like a Camry &#8211; Lexus mix, and the Outback looking very much like the Toyota Venza, which are both being built out of the same factory in Lafayette Indiana. Personally Subaru has lost my support, I will be holding on to my current Subaru&#8217;s, and if there comes a day I need a new car, unless Subaru makes some changes, I will be looking at other automobiles !!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: G. Livingston</title>
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		<dc:creator>G. Livingston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 05:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well , in talking to 20 dealerships in my area and surrounding states, the Subaru customers have spoken.
The dealerships can&#039;t sell the Legacy GT&#039;s that they ordered, no one wants a STICK !!!!!!  That is why they dropped the Spec B, bad sales figures. They hoped they could sell the GT with the stick, not working !!!!!They also can&#039;t sell the 3.6 models either. The only Legacy Model  selling is the the 4 cylinder boxer with the CVT.  The best thing Subaru can hope for is to develope a CVT, that can withstand the torque and horsepower of their performance models. It seems other car manufacture&#039;s have accomplished this, why not Subaru. For those that state, that all performace cars should have a manual transmission, and only that, well that is your opinion, but it sure is not based on factual information. There are many performance cars that have, automatic/ CVT transmissions, that do very well in the performance area, just look at the Nissan GT-R and Mitsubishi Evo. Their cars do quite well having a CVT transmission, that work very well in the automatic mode !!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well , in talking to 20 dealerships in my area and surrounding states, the Subaru customers have spoken.<br />
The dealerships can&#8217;t sell the Legacy GT&#8217;s that they ordered, no one wants a STICK !!!!!!  That is why they dropped the Spec B, bad sales figures. They hoped they could sell the GT with the stick, not working !!!!!They also can&#8217;t sell the 3.6 models either. The only Legacy Model  selling is the the 4 cylinder boxer with the CVT.  The best thing Subaru can hope for is to develope a CVT, that can withstand the torque and horsepower of their performance models. It seems other car manufacture&#8217;s have accomplished this, why not Subaru. For those that state, that all performace cars should have a manual transmission, and only that, well that is your opinion, but it sure is not based on factual information. There are many performance cars that have, automatic/ CVT transmissions, that do very well in the performance area, just look at the Nissan GT-R and Mitsubishi Evo. Their cars do quite well having a CVT transmission, that work very well in the automatic mode !!!!!</p>
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